Ray J Admits To Playing Whitney Houston Like A Fiddle

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    Ray J admits he used Whitney for fame and ca$h and that he held her sobriety in his hands..

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    1. This demonic fool used lots of women for sex and money so why would Whitney be an exception.He a young minded kid in a grown mans body.It is sad that most of these women fall for Ray J whatever he offering is his downfall.This mama’s boy has not been taught how to treat women …look at how his mother babies him and treats her husband bossy like she wearing the pants boxers and suspenders.I would not trust this cat Ray J he seems shady ,sneaky and DANGEROUS.

        • PLEASE and thats why I don’t date bm either they are hustlers playas mamas boys or down low jailbirds getting some balls on the side. bm got a real problem and their mess ain’t my mess good luck to you sistas staying loyal to the most unloyal men on planet earth

          • Who cares what or who you would date. Maybe black men don’t want to date you. And by the way all of your above all men can fall into those categories not one race.

          • Stop making excuses to put the whiteman who oppresses your people daily balls in your mouth you dumb bitch!!

          • Bitch please don’t start the “black man ain’t shit, AGAIN! I’m just going to throw this piece of advice out there to you, DIE!!!!! That is all.

            • why dont you go be a “vessel” for blackanthraxs baby since you ride for Black men so hard, dumb bytch

          • i agree. black men for the most part are parasites out to take from black women. they are not around to add value to black women lives only to destroy and take away from it. most black women would suffer less if they didn’t deal with black men

            • Yes, I know some trifling, irresponsible black men. But, for the most part, I also know that the majority of black men in MY life, and yes this includes my dad, stepdad, brothers(4), and those in & out of my personal circle that are hardworking or retired, family men who loves, cherish, protect, AND provide for their loved ones. That being said, I feel sorry for m.f.’s like yourself that can’t begin to have a clue of what that means. Just maybe, if YOUR ass had a better, or fined tuned thought mechanism, you too would have a clearer choice, starting w/ that twisted, low ass self esteem. You don’t dream or soar, bitch, you STILL see & entertain stupid people, yet, it’s EVERYBODY ELSE’S FAULT. Help for that shit is everywhere, starting with you!

          • and don’t let these bitches in here silence you. it’s true that black men are the demise of the black community and black women.
            black women who deal with black men have higher rates of dying prematurely. just stay away from them because most of them ain’t shit.

            • Bitch if you put the blame on another individual for the f*ck ups in your life kill yourself kill your kids too because they will grow up to be a delusional self hating coon bitch like yourself black or nothing hoe

      • i personally used to know them before they got famous and i can tell you ray j has always been that way, and his mama is in love with him

    2. where are the sell out boons today? oops too busy dissing a sista. another bm brought down a bw and sound of crickets.

    3. ray j has no power in the industry he’s a drug dealer and he gets passed around just like his sister and their parents know about it. ray j knows the real reason for whitney death everyone on this site should know where i’m going with this.

    4. He’s an opportunist. He was always living in his sister’s shadows. He did what he had to do to stay relevant. It’s ashame that he allowed himself to get so caught up in the foolishness and immorality that is Hollyweird.

    5. He was her f*cking DEALER. Of course he knows why and how she died. His shit put her in the ground.

      How the public ever bought into even the idea that those two had any sort of a romantic relationship is beyond me. Whitney was a heartbroken miserable closeted lesbian who used drugs heavily in order to numb her misery.
      That all powerful, mysterious note which she passed to Brandy was nothing more than a request for a re-up. Either yall are the most naive folks on the planet or you just don’t get what happens when you mess with drugs on that level.

      CLIVE DIDN’T HAVE TO DROWN HER OR PUT SOME SORT OF CURSE ON HER. By forcing her to stay in the closet, he began the train rolling down the tracks to her death by drugs. So in that sense, yeah he “killed” her.

      If Whitney had been able to be who she was and sing what she wanted to sing, she’d be alive today. But no one would know who she is. How many old lesbian gospel singers are famous??
      Errm….. I retract that question. lol

      • SHe may have been gay, but on that Bobby Brown show, she asked him to take her in the woods and ‘work her over!’ Does not sound gay to me. I am sure Ray J did something with her though. I know I would have hit just to say I did.

        • Everyone who knows Whitney knows that Robyn Crawford was the love of her life…even Cissy. She was a lesbian. In case you didn’t know, lesbians certainly can have sex with a man–and when they’re full of cocaine, they may even feel they are enjoying it. She used the drugs as a coping mechanism to help her live a life which wasn’t true to her heart and soul. Even if one disapproves of homosexuality, you have to have some empathy for what it must be like to have to tuck your feelings away in a closet in order to please other people.
          And support them as well.
          Back when she was married to Jesse James, Sandy Bullock used to talk all the time in interviews about all the hot sex they were having…it’s all part of the illusion and act.

          • I do not feel sorry for gays, nor do I care about them. They hide their sick feelings – not please others, but because they know it is wrong and they are ashamed of it. Just ask Queen Latifah, who has been caught out there many times but still insists that she is not gay.

            • So Robyn was with her when they went to that campsite on the show. I could be wrong, but she who nuff talk about her a lot.

            • YEP YEP, LIKE ALICIA KEYS FIRST ALBUM COVER, GO BACK 2 WHITNEY’S FIRST ALBUM COVER, AND LOOK CLOSELY.

              IT SPEAKS VOLUMES BOUT WHAT SIDE OF DA FENCE SHE WAS ON BACK THEN.

              • Watch this lame da radiant in a couple of months tell us on a post regarding Whitney , say we heard from her 1st !

              • @12:18 Why my name is in your mouth? I am too busy trying to deal with family issues right now! So as of right now I have death in the family in MD. My dad just called me yesterday to see if I was coming. Damn! Too much shit to deal with!

        • Funny , but you got the tea on all other shit before any of us but didn’t know this?? Gtfoh … You bogus like your lipstick lezbo buddy Ms Reg!

          • I am a loooooonnng way from being a lesbian. And secondly, idk why U calling me out! I haven’t done shit to y’all asses. If anything I tell I like it is!

            • Radiant1.. These are newbies and haters all-in-one. They are taking the joy out of posting and reading the post on my favorite website. I don’t log in like I used too. Too much childishness.

              • Sher,

                You are truly missed around here like quite a few others but said it best…

                “These are newbies and haters all-in-one. They are taking the joy out of posting and reading the post on my favorite website.”

                Your comment about below about Whitney, Ray J & Bobbi K was so on point. OMG…I was floored by your birdseye perspective. A few of us have patiently waited for the “sudden super stardom” of a few folks since we believe “that’s what they were offered/promised” in addition to other things but not one has made it as of yet & I’m sure some are feeling more duped than others.

          • Anonymous @12:46,

            You know I generally don’t say anything to your lying, shady, juvenile acting, bottom feeding, attention starved ass UNTIL I feel you went too far. Your simple ass been on HSK THE ENTIRE DAY so you know DR1 stated her dad called to inform her of her uncle passing away. You uncouth wretched low life bitch…leave her the hell alone. She only came to make a few comments & take her mind off her family for a minute. How pathetic are you to torment someone who announced a death in their family?

            I’d tell you to show some class but we know you have none. Now go run to post “DR1 & Ms Reg are the same person & start your name calling & the rest of your nonsense…we all expect from your sorry ass.”

            • nobody cares about someone elses family member who they dont know, posting sensitive personal info on a blog of annonymous people is attention seeking, run along parasite and go attach yourself to another celebrity scandal so you can bring us the tea first!

      • serious question: what is a re up?

        what kinds of things were allegedly going on with the kind of drug level Whitney was allegedly involved in?

        it appears that Whitney was allegedly over her head with a messy and miserable life she created for herself. there are many lessons to learn in her story.

        i was watching a video on youtube recently of Whitney performing and receiving a special award on the American Music Awards. she’s performing in a white gown (I Didn’t Know My Own Strength.)

        at the end of the song (you have to watch closely), she makes that devil hand sign. its disturbing to watch.

        she makes that same hand sign while singing a slow number (its very bold), when wearing a white (or off white gown with thin straps) in her 1995 (or so), HBO special.

        i wonder who she was making the sign at. any guesses?

        you never know who celebs really are behind the scenes and who they’re connected to, etc.

    6. Morgan Hardman His former assistant said Ray J hasn’t got a soul!!

      She knows some chit about Her former manager’s shady chit

      what about His sister Brandy?? Whitney was Her idol after all, in fact in one interview Brandy said She wants to play Whitney in movie.

      what about that note???

      • listen i got to put my ‘TIN HAT’ back on whitney was begging for her life that night brandy and monica knew whitney was going to die. trust me that was that note was about. all black entertainers especially qunicy jones, la reid, russell simmons have some power but even they have to answer someone….clive davis he runs black hollywood note(clive davis has slept with some of black hollywood leading men he’s bisexual and he would have men have sex with whitney he would masterbate to it don’t be surprise there’s whitney sex tape because all the celebs have one in case they get of out of line they they use those tapes for blackmail and hidden cameras. :TIN HAT” signing off

        • one more thing about those sex tapes when a celeb or athelets who make “millions” of dollars when you tell the T.P.T.B you want out they will show a video of these people in “compromise situations” . these tapes are for real they have hidden cameras they have no idea their recording them even your dead celebs have tapes. when your fame their a price you pay. and they will show you videos on how they kill who went against them “TIN HAT” signing off for real lol goodnight

          • when mj passed his telephone copnversations with marlon brando was up for sale.

            they said mj and marlon was talking about kids.

            marlon brando was openly bisexual and one of his sons hung around mj.

            danny bonaduce once said he used to hang around mike and Christian brando in the 70’s and ouyt of all 3 danny said he turned out the most normal.

            even leif garrets crackhead ass said mj was a weirdo and possibly gay.

        • Stephen I read something similar to what you saying and you right Clive ,Monica and Brandy knew what was about to happen.See how shocked they looked when she walked in the room? It was not because she walked in unexpectedly and interrupted their interview.Whitney did act nervous,scared and a little hyper when I watched that video like you said maybe she was begging for her life.

          • Hey you guys, look close right behind Ray j. Isn’t that his fellow snake- in- the- grass Raffles Von Eckles, or whatever his name is. Boy do I wish Jacky was still on here to connect the dots. Remember how determined he was to expose that riffraff?

              • DR1,

                Glad to see you up & at it…hope you’re feeling better!

                I got a question for you…
                “Remember the note Whitney gave Brandy during the interview she walked in on with her, Clive Davis & Monica?”

              • @Reg thank you and that mess had me messed up! If that ain’t bad enough, My Dad just called yesterday and told my great Uncle Rooster had died! Mannnnnnnnn…….if it ain’t one thing its another! *sigh*

              • DR1,

                OMG…you’ve been catching it lately on the family side of life. Just stay calm & address each situation individually. Gettibg worried & stressed out is definitely not in your best interest.

                I’m sorry for your lost & pray you & your family start the healing process now. That’s a big blow with everything else you have going on.

        • @Stephen look like I need to keep my tin hat on for this too! @16:34 she is probably on the James DeBarge topic. I agree I need her to break this down too!

          • what was strange was Brandy’s behind music episode was entirely about Whitney

            what it a mere consequence or questionable timing??

            Monica is nurse maybe She left the industry because She knows what shady goings on in the music industry

    7. Stephen…..you sound like one of them types that tapes your wife sucking other niggas diks….then use it later to get her to do a favor. Cause you scared of her.

    8. I never cared much for Ray J ..He always gave off fake vibes…Typical Desperado trying too hard to be down..Always trying to come off as hard. …hanging with people that he thought he could get street Fred off by association .a wanna be..hanging off his sisters coattails. had aZed singer.. Only song that was halfway decent was one wish ..Looks and acts like a13 yr old…Don’t get what any of the chicks he gets with including the late Whitney saw in him…

      • ray j has some level of fame, he’s related to snoop and had tv sitcoms so he has some clout plus a lot of women liked what they saw in his sex tape with kim k so they wanna suck his dick too.

        but yes ray j acting career is crappy compared to his sisters.

        he should stick to reality tv.

        his film creds suck too kazaam remem,ber that wack azz movie he made with shaq when shaq was convinced he could not only play ball but act and rap too.

        the Sinbad show lasted one season.

        ray j joins the cast of a show in their last season like Moesha, and one on one.

        brandy caused Moesha to be cancelled she was on drugs, she had a bitchy attitude she hated her co stars and she wanted too much control.

    9. Little Lucifer hu? So that’s how you get down? Are you proud to have supposeonly used Whitney and you had control over her getting high and all, dig that so that’s how you moven around, using people? I mean this is what you said, you soulless little skunk bitch ass lil Punk you,you lousy little 5’4 midget you, you ain’t shit period, I believe you had alot ta do with what happened to her, only one thing you didn’t learn about doing dirty deeds rayj, the devil is a lier,a thief and guess what he’s using you, he’ll turn on you, he’ll show me just how low down he is and tell you to kiss his ass your not winning, I hope you don’t think you are because your talking, and it’s manifesting in different ways and is coming out, you can’t hold what you did its eating you alive (well I think you had a part in what happened to Whitney) and your can’t hold it in, I hope it’s torture you to death u limey little creep,nobody likes you but people that want something from you, you stay in a bottle, I can’t wait to see you self destruct

      • that’s why his girlfriend thrteatened to kill him she broke his ribcage recently.

        ray j has complkicated relationships.

        whitney was gonna die anyway if she hadn’t drowned she was gonna die later on all the drugs she was doing.

    10. men like him will get theirs. she was a beaten and broken woman, we all knew this and he comes in and takes advantage of her in this fragile state. This is not a black man thing its a man thing. Ray better pray he never has daughters. oh yeah his sister has a daughter. I feel so sorry for whitney..

    11. Ugh I can’t stand him or Nick Cannon. They are both talentless users and pushers who boast about taking advantage of lonely older women with chemical dependencies. What kind of jaded mind considers having sex with Kim and taking advantage of Whitney as being on top of the world? He was nothing more than a sidekick to both of those women.

      • true that. i can’t stand nick or ray j. they’re both users . let this had been a woman taking advantage of men at their lowest point. people here would be crying and screaming foul.

    12. GAY J WILL GET HIS SOON WATCH THE TABLES WILL TURN ON HIM WATCH AN SEE, HIS TURN IS COMING VERY SOON. ALL THESES SELLOUTS ESPECIALY BRANDY ALIEN UGLY ASS,AN MONICA THEM TWO BITCHES AINT SHIT THEY KNEW WHITNEY WAS ABOUT TO GET TAKEN OUT HELL WHITNEY HER CONTRACT WAS UP. BUT THEY ALL BETTER HAVE THEY FUN CAUSE THE DEVIL WILL TURN ON THEM ALL

    13. Ray J, Brandy, Nick Gordon and Pat Houston are just carrying out what Clive Davis told them to do. Clive is the head devil in charge.

      • But answer this if U can 9:31 please? If Brandy, Ray J, and Pat are carrying out the demise from Clive, who in the world Clive have to answer to if the demise is not carry out?

    14. Why didn’t any of you notice that,that was a viewing of the body well it was called a “wake” I don’t think is used in that term anymore but that was what that gathering was, think about it why would anyone continue to have a party and a legendary singer is up stairs dead? been murdered? because it was a viewing Clive was in on it 100% and ray J stank confused alcoholic ass, who would do that? Most people would have shut down the party,send out cancellations and meet the car’s for the one’s who didn’t get the information stop them and say something like “I’m sorry the news and because of this we had to stop the party and give them a parting gift or something, no the party continue’s and Whitney’s laying dead right above the party,dosen’t that sound spooky? That my dear friends was a wake or viewing, rayj is taking because he knows and it’s eating him alive, ray j don’t think your getting away with anything son, your not because it’s manifesting into several things and scratching and clawing its way out, and when it’s all said and done ray J, you’ll be in a straight jacket in a mental institution watch, it’s not over

      • Debutant, Now that was well said. And yes we still say wake in the South. Like Chaka Kahn said, “If something like this were to happen, Whitney would be like, “Stop Everything! We can’t do this! Something is wrong!” And Chaka was absolutely right!

      • You nailed it. I have been saying this for months: President Obama was there that night too! I find it so f*cking creepy that no one ever says anything about that. I do t even like peering too deep into that rabbit hole cuz it makes my skin crawl. The leader of the free world and countless stars are in a hotel with a dead legend floating in a tub of water. Think of all the security. Secret Service men. Armed guards. Yet the Crypt Keeper looking music producer seems to be calling all the shots: The party must go on!. I. Just.Can’t. That shit is straight demonic.

        • I don’t see how folks don’t see what type of monster is actually behind the curtain. Of course they called the shots known fact. Whitney was in deeper than any of us knew but dealing with Clive only can only imagine. May GOD rest her soul but she must own up to her actions in her own tragic journey. Bobby tried to get her to go clean but she didn’t want that. I’m starting to think Bobby is the one who asked for the divorce. Whitney invited evil into her life and she kept the lights on for evil in the dark. I knew there were many things that didn’t happen right or by the book concerning her death but I also didn’t expect anything to be right or by the book because of who she was and how she lived. Rituals are well-known in the industry so there should be no surprise when hearing they kept her body around while they partied.

          • “Whitney invited evil into her life and she kept the lights on for evil in the dark.”

            That was very powerful. We all must be very careful who and what we invite into our lives.

            Show business can allegedly be a very dangerous business for certain big stars. Whitney was allegedly way over her head in all the mess she was involved in.

            There’s no telling what BK saw, experienced and overheard in her lifetime. Sad and scary at the same time.

            I hope folks who are trying to break into show business are looking, reading and researching before signing on the dotted line.

        • Hollywood has a HISTORY OF CELKBRATING AND WORSHIPPING DEATH.

          ASK THE FAMILIERS OF JAMES BROWN, MICHAEL JACKSON, AND ANNA NICOLE SMITH.

          IF THERES MONEY TO BE MADE THEY’RE GONNA MAKE IT JUST ASK THE FAMILIES OF JIMI HENDRIX, 2PAC, BIGGIE SMALLS, AND AALIYAH.

          WHEN OR IF LIL WAYTNE PASS EXPECT UNRELEASED ALBUMS, DOCUMENTARTIES, BOOKS, INTERVIERWS, CD TRUBUTES, LAST FILMS THE WHOLE WORKS.

      • THE OCCULT CELEBRATE AND WORSHIPS DEATH.

        SAME REASON THE Jackson family charged 25 dollars a seat at mj’s funeral.

        its all entertainment.

        same reason janet wanted to get paid off mj’s funeral.

        same reason beyonce didn’t want to make no public appearances until she was paid.

        yes bey wanted to get paid to attend m,j’s funeral.

        and lets not get started on that lame azz we are the world tribute.

        they phukked the song up can’t believe lionel and quincy went along with it you can tell they didn’t like what was going on.

        you put a bunch of singers some who could sing with white techno pop gay lesbian singers who can’t sing and you had wack azz rappers using autotune.

    15. Ray J is next believe that that’s this tape has been leaked. Their family isn’t well-liked anymore and what do they offer Hollywood? Nothing.

    16. My special wish before I go to bed: I pray and wish that a bunch of drug dealers (or even recreational drug users) hijack Ray J, strip his bytch azz down naked and stuffs pure, unstomped on, colombian cocaine up his ass and down his throat and every other orifice you can think of, so he can choke on the fishscale and (as his heart pumps loudly and insanely rapid that he can see it coming out his chest) he goes into convulsions and has a cocaine induced epileptic seizure. That is my wish…so sayeth, so shall it be done. LOL…asshole!

      • YOU MISS WHIT THAT MUCH.

        SHE WAS ALREADY A DRUG ADDICT.

        I FEEL NOTHING FOR DRUGGIES AND ADDICTS I DO NOT HELP THEM OR CRY WHEN THEY GO THROUGH WHATEVER PRIVATE HELL THEY’RE GOING TO.

        WE WAS ALL WARNED ABOUT THE DANGERS OF DRUG USE SOME DID’NT WANNA LISTEN LIKE WHIT, BOBBY, AND BK.

        SORRY I FEEL NOTHING FOR THEM EVEN NICK GODON’S JUNKIE AZZ DON’T KNOW WHAT HE GONNA DO NOW HE HAS NO ACCESS TO NO INCOME.

        HE MAY HATE BOBBY BROWN BUT I BET YOU HE WON’T PHUKK WITH BOBBY BROWN.

        BOBBY GOT GROWN ASS SONS WHO WILL HANDLE HIM HE MIGHT THREATEN PAT ON FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER HE WAS POSING A GUN AT TALKING BOUT HES A KILLER AND IM LIKE YOU DAMN FOOL YOU TAKING PICS WITH A GUN MAKING DEATH THREATS TALKING BOUT YOU GONNA KICK ASS LIKE YOU AT A ROUGHHOPUSE SET YES THAT WAS THE DRUGS TALKING.

    17. Rat J is getting what he deserves he wants to be a celebrity so bad and it’s never going to happen. The industry recognize his grimey doggish ways. The industry want innocence so they could turn you, he was born turned up and turned out. Lil Wayne said it best, ” I’ll do a reality show when my career is over.” Bye Rat J

    18. well looks like lil wayne better start looking for A REALITY SHOW GIG.

      HIM LEAVING BABY WILL NOT BE A GOOD MOVE I MEAN THIS GUY THOUGHT HE HAD A RECORD LABEL.

      DRUGS WILL DO THAT TO YOU.

    19. PHUKK RTAY J WE ALL KNOW HE PHUKKED WHIT AND BK WE KNOW HE WAS SUPPLYING DRUGS.

      GUESS HE WAS MAKING MORE SELLING DRUGS CAUSE HIS MUSIC AIN’T SELLING.

      ANYBODY HABG AROUND FAGGOT ASS TOM GREEN WELL JUST ASSOCIATING WITH THAT CRAZY ASS RETARDED WHITEBOY WAS BAD ENOUGH.

      • Crazy Chris: I never heard the story of phone conversations/secret tapes of Michael Jackson and Marlon Brandon. Did anyone ever purchase them?

        Was Marlon allegedly a pervert too? Do you believe MJ was really guilty of those disgusting child abuse charges? Was he really a pervert?

        Also, is Michael’s will fake?

    20. Ray was promised some things to help take Whitney out. Was I the only one that noticed Ray-J was constantly hanging around Clive Davis before Whitney’s death. It was all planned out and he was a key player in the event. Hell, Bobbi Kris new too. She was all set to take on acting and singing and playing Whitney in film… She was terribly excited about it. Bobbi Kris became angry and unsettled when things didn’t go the way “they” promised it would for her “career”. They put her ass to sleep because she wouldn’t allow or give her consent for certain things to take place involving Whitney. You see Bobbi Kris has a lot of say so about what people can do with Whitney’s image and name. She went Rock-a-bye baby and Cissy releases the book that Bobbi Kris told her not to write. Back to Whitney… It may be hard to believe but that is how the industry plays. Some actors and actresses and elite are chosen to die and they know the game. To tell the truth Whitney knew her time was up too… the very reason that she kept singing gospel songs towards the end. Especially, Jesus loves me. Everywhere she went and whomever she did duets with, Whitney sang gospel tunes. The note she gave to Brandy was not to cop drugs. It was Whitney trying to call out for help. Her connections were never too far behind, she could have copped without the aid of Brandy. Brandy did an interview later after the note passing, the interviewer asked about the note and she crossed her hands in the illuminati gesture that represents, “I know the truth and will never tell.” The industry is a bitch and God help those who venture into it. “Like a moth to a flame burned by the fire!”

      • But answered this Sher. Wasn’t Clive supposed to buy Whitney’s mansion in Mendham Township in New Jersey to give to Krissy?

        • Where and when did you hear this re: Whitney’s mansion purchase for BK? I’ve never heard this before.

          • 22:03 It was either around the time when she and Bobby was getting a divorce or right after they buried her. I can’t remembered where I saw an article on it. But Clive was going to purchase the mansion and give it to Krissie but she changed her mind. I guess too many memories.

      • bobbi k called angela bassett a shemale.

        guess its a rule that celebs cant call celebs gay, trans, or dyke anymore ask joan rivers but shes not here anymore.

        kind of odd she died after calling michelle a trans.

        need proof that angela bassett, and michelle are shemales.

        bk was better off calling angela a dyke or a ho.

        actually bobbi was a bad choice to play her mom anyway she has no acting credentials really just a damn rewality show and she was high or look lost half the time.

        plus bobbi was high ever since her mom died her drug use has gotten worse.

        and that punk nick Gordon crying cause he can’t live off her money anymore and this iodiot was a junkie himself and he threatened pat calling her a bitch and saying he’ll woop all the houstons showing his gun idiot you don’t make threats and put it on instagrtam or facebook.

      • Hi Sher,

        Did Whitney ever truly try to get clean? Her autopsy revealed chronic cocaine use. So according to the report, she was still abusing drugs at the time of her death.

        Was/is Pat Garland working against Whitney and Bobbi? What is Pat’s reputation in the industry?

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