Jay Z & Roc Nation Buy All Rights To Tupac’s Recordings; Plan New Release?

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    Jay Z Tupac Catalog

    “Understand this, ain’t no n*gga like me, f*ck Jay-Z! He broke.” ~2Pac, “F*ck Friends”

    There’s a rumor circulating that, Jay Z’s Roc Nation has purchased the entire Tupac catalog, from the company Entertainment One, for a whopping $384 million.

    Here’s what out there:

    “The deal gives Jay-Z exclusive rights to any music that is released which would feature any of Tupacs songs or lyrics. This is a phenomenal event for Roc Nation.

    We’ve purchased one of Hip-Hops greatest icons music which would make us one of the largest record labels in the world.

    We have a plan set in motion to release a new Tupac album in 2016 titled, ‘And Now I Rise’ which will feature Snoop Dogg (Snoop Lion), Drake, Nas, The Dream, DMX, Beyonce and of course Jay-Z. The album will be produced by Dr. Dre and Timbaland.”

    True or Naw?

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        • pac would have worked with and phukked beyonce if he had lived to see dc blow up.

          but yes him and snoop was on bad terms in pac’s last days snoop wanted to work with puff and biggie.

          pac didn’t like the fact that snoop was willing to deal with the same dudes that had him and his crew shot up in that trailer.

          check out pac’s ny 87 where kurupt states big was dissing them on the radio.

        • Im tired of all this cult of Tupac bullshit . Dude was one of the worst influences on our youth ever and a walking talking stereotype. He displayed all of the worst qualities of black men, he was the ultimate suge knight dickrider, and would have died penniless.
          Jay-Z buying his catalog is no worse than all of the shitty forgetable material the corny ass Outlaws put out using his name.
          You brainwashed coons wouldn’t care if some white guy had it, but yal dumb ass Niggas are holding on to a 20 year rap beef that ain’t got shit to do with you.
          Fucking Pathetic

          • If Ur tired of it go kill Ur Self…. 2pac G for eternity… it says a lot that (If true ) Jay Z would buy all of PaC’s sh*t….. it’s a Micheal Jackson move for sure…. RIP TUPAC SHAKUR “THE GAME IS LAME WIT OUT YA “

          • That depends on how you see it. We all have who we like and thats what makes the world go around. But I think he was far from the worst influence. I think you might be a little criticle of the dude. He was only with Deathrow and Suge for less than a year, you dont think he was gonna show some allegiance to suge. Suge came and got him out of jail when everyone else turned their back on him. What you see as dick riding might just be a little appreciation. I have seen much worse influences than Tupac. Before he got on Deathrow he mainly talked about the struggle of being black and being in the ghetto and being black in a world full of ghettos. Most peope that like Tupac do so because they can identify with him and struggles he was rapping about. Tupac died a 25 years old. Who isn’t full of contradictions in their early 20s. One thing about the dude no matter If you like him or not, is that he wasn’t know to lie about himself or anybody else. An as far as being broke. He was in prison when me against the world dropped, he did not touring for that album which is how the artist made their money. Then the man died 9 months out of prison, he never really toured for all eyes on me he was busy trying to make his last two albums so he could be done with Deathrow.. Biggie died broke too, but he never went to prison while promoting his stuff. And as fa as broke, you got peope who been rapping 16 or 17 years that are broke, athletes are broke. he had no endorsement or nothing like that. I can see one thing, you don’t like the dude that’s for sure. But he was far from the worst influence.

            • Showing loyalty is one thing, being, a big enough dickrider to get involved in gang activity when you aren’t from L.A. is beyond dumb.
              Dude was broke because the black-ass devil he ( Suge ) was running around imitating was robbing his ass blind.
              Biggie has absolutely nothing to do with the issue I guess you threw his name in for dramatic effect.
              Why does a grown man so often depicted without a shirt on and a bandana tied around his head? Is that normal ? Did he dress like that before Death Row when he was doing the Humpty Dance? What image was being sold to black american youth by the entertainment conglomerate Death Row, Interscope and Tupac were part of?
              All that thuglife garbage was the main catalyst for the prison culture that now is so rampant . What kind of moronic negro wants to live a thugs life.
              Keep embracing ignorance like its all fun games and entertainment.

            • I think Tupac was a brilliant young man who died too young. He was conflicted because the seed of self knowledge was dropped in him young. But it conflicted with the reality of his life. Look who is mother an ex panther who got strung out on dope. Every time I hear dear mama tears come to my eyes. My own mother like his was talented and beautiful but the streets got her. Just like the streets got him in the long run. He was fighting it you could see and hear him fighting it. If he had the chance to live I think he would have grown into the man God called him to be. We can’t blame recording artist for our children going astray. That all starts in the home. Our black male youth are lost because 75% of black homes are ran by single mothers. Like most little black boys Pacs parents weren’t together. Our boys are lost without their fathers. But Pack has some great interviews out there. And just like Eddie said who isn’t conflicted in their 20s. Your still finding yourself and your voice. I’m not the same woman at 43 that I was at 23 thank God.

          • @Qualial, Before Tupac entered the entertainment industry, he was an activist. Afeni was a real life Black Panther. Her connections were deep, true and serious. At one point, she was being tracked by the FBI. When Tupac first entered the industry, he was afrocentric, pro black and anti black on black violence. He was eventually pressured by record execs to make a “THUG LIFE” image, but he twisted it and made it have a positive acronym. Once he got locked up, he felt pressured to sign with DEATH ROW simply because he hated being in jail. Yes, his image was destructive with Death Row, but Pac was under contract and had to put on that image. But that’s not what he was really about. This is why he desperately wanted to leave the industry. Even to the point that he would create a plan to fake his death and relocate to another country via his BP connections.

            • I already know about Afeni and the panthers as does anyone who has done a minimum of reading . Maybe its new to you though.
              What the hell was positive about the concept of thuglife? Dont you think it may have helped americas media stereotype all black men as thugs? Thugs to be murdered ala Trayvon and Mike Brown. Not men or people with a positive future.
              Young misguided black men embraced that bullshit wholeheartedly and acted that shit out. White America ( who actually bought the majority of those Pac records ) listened watched and believed .

              • You talking like you are someones parent. Not everyone knows about the black panthers, don’t take for granted that they do. Its pretty ignorant of you to assume things and hurl insults to make yourself fell good, it makes you seen as if you have an inferiority complex. Now you mean to tell me that Thug life as Tupac portrayed it, somehow attributed to Mike Brown And Trayvon Martin being stereo typed by racist and ignorant people? So, Sanford Florida being a racist town had nothing to do with Trayvon being stereotyped. And the police department the cop worked for in Missouri being know to profile and treat blacks worse than whites had nothing to do with it huh? Trayvon Martin was killed 16 years after Tupac died. Instead of holding murderers accountable for their actions, you say a man who died 19 years ago attributed to these young black men’s death. Killed by trained Law enforcement persons. So according to you Tupac has made America see every black male as thug life huh? Walking down the street with Arizona Tea is thug life huh. If you want to hate somebody hate Dre. After all he did start this Gangster Rap shit didn’t he. This shit seems personal with you and Tupac, did he touch your girls booty or did you find out she dated dude or something, she call you Tupac while she was nuttin. You got a whole lot emotions oozing out right now. What wrong you lonely and need a thug in ya life?

              • People to this day Still mourn Pac and i bet not even 5 people would give half a f*ck if you left this bitch! Go flush yasef down the shitter you hating ass bitch! You hating a Pac and he been dead since 96? You piece of shit! Fuck you hie and yo momma bitch! Foh and dont come fir a dead man.

              • “If you want to hate somebody hate Dre. After all he did start this Gangster Rap shit didn’t he.”

                That is all.

              • @Qualial

                The
                Hate
                U
                Give
                Little
                Infants
                Fucks
                Everyone

                That was Tupac’s acronym for THUGLIFE. That is why tbtb didn’t like Pac. He took their agenda and flipped it for as long as he could. DEATHROW Records was when his messages became destructive.

                Also, I sense a condescending tone in your comment. Perhaps it’s because you are not as knowledgeable as you PRETEND to be. Don’t try to rub your simple mindset off on others.

                Done with you.

          • Beef is just problems or words….when your so called friend who u helped out w/ their career knows your going to get shot (NY shooting) and he’s there along w/ all these other people I don’t call that beef. He handled getting shot knowing who was involved a lot better than I would have.

            I’m also sick of people saying he’s a walking contradiction….why can’t black people not use the 2nd amendment like every other group to protect themselves?

            If you actually listened to all his lyrics/albums interviews and not just mainstream edited opinions or “California love” no logical person could say “he’s a walking contradiction”.

          • No he spoke the truth and at sometime was misguided with the company that he kept but he was not a puppet like most artist now.

          • YES THE OUTLAWS PROVED THEY CANNOT HOLD THEIR OWN WITHOUT PAC.

            DAZ DISSED THEM YEARS Ago saying they still trying to find themselves the remaining 3 joined some underground rappers in st. Louis.

            they was rap a lot who phukked trhem and suge phukked them too.

            storm was shot at and she quit the rap game out of fear and to raise her daughter.

            big syke joined rap a lot and put out some cd’s nobody cares about.

            thug life and the outlawz was all about pac without him the crews failed.

          • Qualial, try as you might, you can’t pigeonhole Tupac.

            Pac was a politically astute, socially conscious lyrical soldier whose body of work left as much of an impact on Generation X as Malcolm X’ philosophy did for the racial
            emancipation of African-Americans.

            Record label marketing aside…he was a true ARTIST who used all his paint.

            The same Pac that gave us “Hit Em Up,” also gave us “Keep Ya Head Up,” “I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto” and one of the most beautiful odes to motherhood, “Dear Mama.”

            While the media highlighted his man/child misdeeds, they never unveiled the Pac that
            read and could discuss Leo Tolstoy, Machiavelli, Friedrich Nietzsche and loved the opera.

            His artistic footprint was so prolific that classes have been offered at the University of
            Washington, University of California Berkeley and Harvard regarding his life, legacy
            and literature.

            His poetry would leave you in awe.

            In short, Pac was a poetic genius with human foibles.

            BUT please don’t charge him with the current conditions and genocide that plague the black community, which is a result of generational “curses” and systemic and institutional racism.

            • @Mama beautifully said! Im over here crying right now just thinking of who he could be today. He was a beautiful brillant young man who left too soon Like so many others.

            • Malcom X would never have tried to disrespect someones wife publicly like he did , nor would Malcolm X be rat packing gang members on acasino security cam. Tupac aint no Malcom X bro.
              As for me sounding like someones parent I am. Most people who are of Tupacs same age group are.
              Mama you are beyond delusional if you think the coonish behavior of black entertainers doesn’t affect public perception of African-Americans ,especially since most of those albums he sold were bought by white people.
              That shit he did to Faith Evans was far from gangsta. No so called concious black man or activist would have done that either.
              Tupac started out concious peep his first album. He didnt go gangsta till he became Suges pet nigga.
              No gangsta ass cali banger would ever get on stage an d do th e humpty dance.
              JOI.._ Ice T started gangsta rap with the song Six In the Morning

              • You need to read the Autobiography of Malcolm X, Qualial.

                In it, he admitted to being a drug addicted, gangster backed, numbers running, white woman loving robber who went to prison and turned his life around after being introduced to other inmates affiliated with the NOI.

                He stated one of his biggest regrets was mistreating his virgin black girlfriend whom he introduced to the fast life of the streets…after she ended up becoming a drug addicted prostitute.

                His work with the NOI needs no explanation here…but he later renounced the group after making his pilgrimage to Mecca and meeting muslims from other sects.

                My point is the Malcolm EVOLVED…things that MEN DO on the road to MANHOOD.

                The Pac that would of been 43 today more than likely wouldn’t be the one you described.

                And that’s the tragedy about the condition of our men and our communities. Many are being struck down – literally and figuratively – in the primes; never being allowed to become the KINGS AND TREASURES ALMIGHTY GOD intended for them to be.

                Don’t wanna argue…just some food for thought.

              • You just validated most points being made here. How long was he on Deathrow, 10 months. You just said yourself h was conscious until he got on Deathrow. There might have been a load of material written and recorded in those 10 months that make it seem longer but you are condemning this man for a 10 month period in his life. We all have different paths in life this mans walk wasnt the same as yours and this man and his family have been targests since his birth. He lived with and was taught by some revolutionry legends, people that were strong in the struggle and put themselves on the line for black equality. And you can’t say definitively what Malcolm X Would or wouldn’t do. And I see that you are really concerned about what white peoples perception is of you. You say that you are someones parent so you should know by now that long before you were born they had already judged us and those who look like us. Thats why its called PRE JUDICE, what this man rapped about did not mold white America’s image of you and if you think it did you are sorely mistaken and you might want to rethink how this world works. Do you really think that White America is scared of you because of a 5 foot 9 inch, 165 pound entertainer. The real fear they had of him was his mind, he knew more about our true history than the average male at his age. I guess it’s fair for me to say that all white people are from trailer parks, take prescription drugs, hate their mother, talk about raping their own mother and killing their babiex mother, because thats what Eminem talks about so thats white people in a nutshell. White people will know who we are when they stop lying about us. When they are truthful about history and our contributions to modern medicine and technology. But the most disturbing thing about this whole conversation is your concern of what white people think of you and the fact that you think Tupac has something to do with how white America sees us.

                This was one of the last songs he write before going to prison. I always liked this verse, Because actually wrote this verse for the kids
                They didn’t want him to continue talking to people like this.

                With all this extra stressin”’
                The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
                When will I finally get to rest? Through this suppression
                They punish the people that’s askin’ questions
                And those that possess, steal from the ones without possessions
                The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
                Don’t settle for less – even the genius asks-es questions
                Be grateful for blessings
                Don’t ever change, keep your essence
                The power is in the people and politics we address
                Always do your best, don’t let the pressure make you panic
                And when you get stranded
                And things don’t go the way you planned it
                Dreamin’ of riches, in a position of makin’ a difference
                Politicians and hypocrites, they don’t wanna listen
                If I’m insane, it’s the fame made a brother change
                It wasn’t nothin’ like the game

        • Jay-z is turning into the white man making more money off of the dead then they made when they were alive. Note to artist handle your business and protect yourself from the grave or you will be exploited in the afterlife.

      • You know what…. I jay Z is actually a man about it… and respects pacs legacy… he may help bridge gaps out her in NYC..because we got fuk master flex running his mouth like a trans trick and hot 97 hating pac hard…. We need that pac love out here like L A

          • In The Depths Of Solitude
            by Tupac Shakur

            i exist in the depths of solitude
            pondering my true goal
            trying 2 find peace of mind
            and still preserve my soul
            constantly yearning 2 be accepted
            and from all receive respect
            never comprising but sometimes risky
            and that is my only regret

            a young heart with an old soul
            how can there be peace
            how can i be in the depths of solitude
            when there r 2 inside of me
            this duo within me causes
            the perfect oppurtunity
            2 learn and live twice as fast
            as those who accept simplicity

    1. This shit makes me wonder…did gay z kill Tupac??? It’s mighty strange that this bitch ass nikka didn’t come up until after Pac and Big were murked. This clown knows that Pac hated his phoney ass so why would he want his catalog of music? Yea I think this bitch nikka killed Pac, Big, Big L, and others to obtain his position. Them KKKRACKKKERS ain’t chucking with that nikka just because they like his ass. That nikka gay z is a plant. Don’t trust that snake muthaphukka.

      • You got that right John Jones. This is fawking disgusting. Pac couldnt freaking stand this dude. Why in the world would he do this. Money hungry greedy dog. I cant his fraud arse. This makes me sick to my stomach. These lame fraud arse niccas riding and profiting off of a true legend. Fawk off.

        • True…in a lot of his unreleased stuff he’s more specific w/ it and was calling out queen puffy way back in the 90s along w/ others and what he makes people do to get their deals…cough cough

    2. Don’t let them tell y’all it’s about the money. No it ain’t. This shit is deeper than that. This is some real sick shit.

      • yes it is about money.
        and yes jay z wanna get back at pac what better waY TO GET BACK AT YOPUR ENEMY THAN BY BUYING HIS CATALOG AND MAKING MUSIC OFF IT.

    3. My last post of the day and I need some answers. Why the hell is all of these fruits that Pac despised on tracks with him knowing that man didn’t like any of them? Why not put out tracks with people that Pac did get along with? These rapper mumuthaphukkas are some real coward ass nikkas. Shitting all over the legacy of the GOAT. God don’t like ugly and gay z is one ugly muthaphukka.

      • What is the f*ck is going on? Ain’t Jay-Z was supposed to get permission from Ms. Afeni Shakur since that is her son? Look at the list of artist that mentioned. The only two people that got along with is Snoop and DMX. The rest can shit bricks and drank hot death piss for all I care!

        • It depends on what was part of his estate, I’m willing to bet that Afeni does not have control of the Publishing of his music. When PAC died he had be ripped off by Suge Knight, he didn’t have a house or a car in his name it was all in Suges name, publishing rights is big big money so I’m sue that Suge had that too and would have been part of Deathrows assets which was bought by wide awake entertainment for a measley 18 million dollars, which is owned by the same people who run all of the entertainment industry. But if all of Deathrow cost them 18 mil and they flip a small portion for 384, its pretty safe to say they came up huge. But like another poster said I think it goes a lot deeper than the money. I think it’s a a message to rebellious negros and at the same time its a gift for an obedient servant. Tupac was a rebel to the system, outspoken and unapologetic. He ran his mouth about a lot of stuff in America and black people listened. This gives me the impression that they are saying even in death, f*ck you Tupac, we will give you to your enemy if you f*ck with us. This is the definition of “f*cking with a person in their after life”. And I will be perfectly honest with you, I really doubt that they sold anything to Gay Z, I think this is some bullshit to keep people from asking questions when we start hearing Jay z, rapping shit that Tupac wrote. Like when him and Beyonce remade Tupacs “me and my girlfriend”. And Dre making the beats?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!! This is definately spit in the face of Tupac. And they ain’t fooling nobody, the lase beat Dre made was was in da club by 50 cent. There ain’t another beat in Dre’s Satanic ass, if Dre comes up with a beat, you better believe the devil made it for his ass.

          • Completely agree with all of this …if this is true it means that JayZ will be able to mold Tupacs legacy into whatever he wants. The generation that grew up with Pac won’t be fooled but he will be able to shape Pacs legacy for future generations through whatever music collaborations are made from here on out. The epitomy of a true culture vulture

            • Yep, culture jackin at its finest. And not only Tupac but jermain Dupri rapped in a song about Dre saying “niggas know you don’t do the work in the studio, and you like niggas playing with your booty hole”. A producer named Mailman did most of the work on that chronic 2001 album. Boy Dre ass is gon burn.

              • like dre is really A CREATIVE GENIUS.

                DRE GOT OVER BECAUSE HE WAS HOOKED UP WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE LIKE EAZY, NWA WHICH GAVE HIM CLOUT.

                AND THEN DEATHROW SOLD MILLIONS OFF THE CHRONIC ALONE SO YES DRE GOT OVER AS A PRODUCER BECAUSE HE WAS ON POWERFUL LABELS AND CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

                WHILE MELMAN WHO DID MORE WORK GETS NO RECOGNITION.

                NEITHER DOES BIG HUTCH WHO DID WAY MORE WORK THAN DRE EVER DID ON RUTHLESS AND DEATHROW.

              • I never said he was any kind of creative genius. When everybody was singing him praises I was never. Impressed because I never heatd a beat from him that wasn’t a derivative of a 70s funk classic. I guess he thought that only people in California listend to P funk or something. Every song he ever made I had heard it on Saturday mornings, bar b qs, family reunions and House parties. Even down to that quirky ass first song that he did for eminem, that slim shady bullshit. He used Labe Sifres song to sample it. As a matter of fact this Is good thread to to mention that song by Labe Sifres because Jay Z used the same song on the streets is watching, as a matter of fact I will post it and see for ypurself. The first part was used for a jay Z sond and the second part was used for eminem song. But I always Sid the the best hip hop producer out of cali was DJ Quik because unlike Dre he could buil a beat from scratch.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKISdd2mKzU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

            • Drake and 2PAC ..LOL THE NEW GENERATION…. DRAKE IS THIS GENERATIONS LL COOL J AND PAC
              IS I GUESS KENDRICK…. IT IS WHAT IT IS…

          • YEAH CHECK OUIT DRE’S AFTERMATH RESUME HE MIGHT HAVE PRODUCED ONE OR TWO TRACKS BY EMINEM, 50, AND THE ARTISTS ON THAT ROSTER BEFORE HE DROPPED THEM.

            PAC DISSED DRE’S WORK ETHNIC HE SAID IT TOOK DRE 2 YEARS TO MAKE ONE BEAT.

          • But like another poster said I think it goes a lot deeper than the money. I think it’s a a message to rebellious negros and at the same time its a gift for an obedient servant. Tupac was a rebel to the system, outspoken and unapologetic. He ran his mouth about a lot of stuff in America and black people listened. This gives me the impression that they are saying even in death, f*ck you Tupac, we will give you to your enemy if you f*ck with us. This is the definition of “f*cking with a person in their after life”. And I will be perfectly honest with you, I really doubt that they sold anything to Gay Z, I think this is some bullshit to keep people from asking questions when we start hearing Jay z, rapping shit that Tupac wrote. Like when him and Beyonce remade Tupacs “me and my girlfriend”.

            THERE IT IS!

            • I agree and K hope this shit is false because I hate these niggas an they will try to tarnish his legacg! Im a rider for Pac and when i heard this shit? I was so upset and sick to my stomach! I hope afeni has all rights to his catalog!!!! Rip Pac. Jayz tryna out do dre and we all know jayz is a copycat. If true i will never purchase pac music again. And get it for free. Hustle man cds my nigga!!!! Lol

          • @Eddie , According to Wikipedia, it stated that Ms. Afeni has the rights of all of her son’s unreleased music. That includes 150 unreleased music that she won in case against Deathrow Records. Somebody is either lying or want some damn unnecessary attention. The best thing for Jay-Z needs to do is back the hell all the way back and keep his damn nose, abused p*ssy dicking lips with that hot ass stank ass death breath somewhere for somebody come for him! Folks know if U keep messing with those dead bones while they at peace,nothing good comes outta that!

    4. Wait & See! LIVE Nation is Roc Nation – so those white dudes from California are behind this, if true. Jay don’t have that kind of money to shell out nor the brains to put this together.

      • Keep telling yourself that. One day when Jigga becomes the next Dr. Drew then maybe folks will finally believe that he has money and he is smart.

        And you don’t need to LIKE or admire him to see that.

        • Yes Fay Z is smart but the money we are led to believe he has is a farce to hype up his status.If you had a clue how the industry works you would know that “Live Nation is in charge .@Guest is right and also if you really believe Jay Z has 384 million dollars then you will be sitting with Jay Z in Dr.Drew’s office under the DSM-IV-diagnoses criteria of Grandiose delusions .Stop admire the white man’s power .

          • Please why do you think Jay Z is “smart” – I like him but most of his businesses have failed and Live Nation will be soon tired of this. He is the middle man and he does have a personality for this job.

            • For starters, I know people well in the sports Management field, and they believe that Roc Sports is going to take athlete “branding” to the next level. What started out as something of a joke in that area is now being taken very seriously.

              He found a way to get the #1 female vocal/show/performance draw in the world in his camp and he has not only kept her there, but he has manipulated the public/fans into following and buying into the drama he created to boost interest in her and them as a couple. The Carters are not just a rapper and chick singer. They are a soap opera, a melodrama, an entity to hate, an entity to be devoted to(in the case of the Beyhive loons.) That is not an easy feat. He knows what sells and why it sells. He has an ineffable eye and ear for the pop zeitgeist.
              Folks here greatly underestimate him because they don’t like him. They are allowing emotion to cloud their perception.
              Jay Z will be Clive Davis by the time he is 60. Yes, I said it. And when he is, he will elicit just as much hate and resentment as Clive does now. But I applaud great accomplishment whether I like the person or not. Bill Gates is a tool, but I take my hat off to him.

              • @Crazy chris you think Jay Z sits around wondering if he can satisfy Rihanna & Bey? lol He will probably get some viagra if he’s not already using it.According to all these illegitimate kids he has Rihanna & Bey is the least of the women he worried about satisfying.

              • @ Anonymous 07:46

                “Folks here greatly underestimate him because they don’t like him. They are allowing emotion to cloud their perception…”

                You are very perceptive and I LOVE that you can see the forest AND the trees!

          • Yes Anony. Live Nation is buying up a lot of stuff or their parent company AEG. Iheartradio is another one. The music industry has found a new way to monopolize the music iindustry.

            • Since when did AEG become Live Nations parent company? Last I checked they were two different organizations, one privately held and the other public.
              I do agree with everyone else that this deal would not have taken place without Live Nation’s approval. Jay Z is a smart dude but he’s also like Guest said, an over hyped middleman.

              • Live Nation Entertainment is an American entertainment company, formed from the merger of Live Nation and Ticketmaster.

                Straight from Wikipedia. The same thing was done with indie bands signing with Interscope. They would make them huge and then dump them when they got all the use out of a band.

                This is why these tours now put huge artist together. Ppl are waking up and not really buying into this fakness. No one cared about Coachella when Paris and Nichole were going…Now it’s becoming the biggest festival on the West Coast.

              • Right I know all that, I’m just trying to figure out where and when AEG became the parent company to LiveNation. I thought you were informing me of some new development that I wasn’t aware of.

              • Well damn. That makes a lot of sense. I wonder do they give military discounts online for a certain event? Gluten, U and Cheese are alright with me,

      • thank u!!!! Press releases inflate things and especially if they need a black mascot or figurehead to make things “appear” better what better person to use than jay z? He defends Barclay’s racist profiling of black people celeb or otherwise, he helped gentrification w/ the Brooklyn nets.

        He needs to worry about all of his kids he doesn’t support or hasn’t paid off yet to go away. Someone w/ the wealth that him and his wife claim to have wouldn’t tour so much, pull publicity stunts, and try to attach themselves to any and everything that will cut them a check. Man for the life of me I will never get how Nas didn’t become the mainstream guy from the east coast and jay z did. All jayz knows how to do is be a snitch, be cutthroat, and screw over any partner he ever had whether male/female.

        I seriously hope this is b.s. because just recently there was a payment of PACs royalties since the death row catalog was at a time w/ the koch brothers after it was for sale.

        I’m also sick of people doing collabs w/ dead artists that you know wouldn’t happen if they were alive. When your dead can’t your work when your alive speak for itself and not be mangled/altered and having stuff released that wasn’t intended to be released?

    5. Just another of Rock Nation and Jay to steal music/lyrics. Trust that Jay will all of sudden come out with a “NEW” CD with “NEW” music that will (yawn, once again) claim to be a game-changer.

      Jay’s well has long since run dry. His “creative” juices (if he ever had any) was used up BEFORE the dude was even 25. That’s why he’s ALWAYS jumping on the bandwagon of the most popular artist, no matter what the genre.

      What Jay SHOULD be doing is focusing on rounding up and paying off all of his illegitimate offsprings before Blue gets old enough to start dating.

      • Now that statement makes helluva since! Damn, why can’t his dumbass go somewhere along with that hot ass stank breath of a woman wife of his just leave!

        • He wont stop or go away until all black youth are controlled zombies or puddy in the devils hands. Thats UckZ’s purpose in life. He is much closer today to achieving this goal than he was two years after Pac was killed.

    6. Hey gay z. Where were you when Big got hit? Weren’t you all on his d!@k? That was an important night for Big and you could’ve used it as an opportunity to really get some exposure since you were on the come up but you were no where to be found. Hmmm…I wonder just where you were. You do look like the sketch of the supposedly killer.

      • U know what John? This scenario got me thinking when Diddy said he was gonna sue Lee Daniels. Saying that Lee did a television series about his life. Ok, now think about it now. Why would Diddy all of sudden say that and knowing Biggie got killed?? It got me to thinking that he too had something with Biggie’s death.

        • Ive always felt diddy n jay plotted to get big out. Biggie wasnt all the way down with the get down n jay was. My personal opinion is that they set up all that tupac n big drama in the studio watched the coast have beefs then at the right moment set big up for murder. It never made since why they drove big to a far away hospital when one was around the corner. Why puff would encourage him to go to cali in the first f*ckn place. If u look at the shots to bigs truck its looks as if someone shot in a pattern while a inside man actually shot him inside the truck(lil cease). Next thing u kno its all bout jay z. What really got me is his verse in hard knock life. I said it under dames topic. That whole verse of him sayn xd ur name out put jigga on top. Who name u x out biggies, but the killer line is if my situation aint improving im tryna murder everything moving n in the video he touches that lil girls head. That always struck a nerve in me like is he sayin he’d kill a baby? Jay couldn shine as long as big was breathin. Then nas said how many biggies rhymes gon come out ur fat lip. Then he buys nas n he shut up. I threw lil cease in the theory jus because i watch his dvd the chronicles n he gave to much detail into tupacs shootin he said he was sitting behind big the day he died. If u look at bigs autopsy report n the shots fired into bigs truck it dont add cuz it shows a direct shot from the back that killed him. If the bullets were all fired in the door how the fatale shot is a direct hit? I kno bullets ricochet but it didn make sense then in the notorious movie cease was always knowin shit before big. Then he snitched on kim regardless of any evidence he couldve took the fifth but made a dvd explaining he aint a snitch while snitchin. Also he said while he was in jail jay was the only one who looked out. If everyone kno u bigs mans n he dies why wouldnt no-one look out for u. Is it cuz they kno u sold bigs out. Jay cant walk in the hood of his hometown why cuz the hood kno the real. All these things stick in my mind cuz since march 9 ’97 a great rapper was killed for bullshit. Yes pac was killed too but he was starting shit. I jus feel like big was killed for everyone else’s selfish needs n since his n pacs depature rap aint been the same with the exception of few. Im hoping the whole truth one day come out cuz police are also involved covering up evidence n recording over videos witnesses gave them. I think both pac n big deserve it n so does their parents.

          • Diddy Lil Cease and Jay Z. Funny I never even entertained the thought of Cease A Leo but damn he is having the worst luck of them all. Maybe becausehe still hangs around Biggie’s mom and she trust him, but GOD wont let him prevail. We all know Jay and Diddy dirty ass f*ck. Dont know how right you are but it’s a good point of view if nothing else.

            • LIL CEASE MADE THAT WEAK ASS CD WITH HIM ON THE COVER NAKED.

              AFTER BIG DIED JUNIOR MAFIA GOT LAZY AND JUST STOPPED COMING TO THE STUDIO AND WANTING TO DO MUSIC SO PUFF SAID FORGET THEM.

          • BIG WAS INTO SATAN HE WORE 666 CLOTHING, HE FLIRTED WITH DEATH, FAKING SUICIDES, REWADY TO DIE, LIFE AFTER DEATH.

            YES BIG WAs into the darkside his second album was his darkest you had one song where puff says I don’t wanna die.

          • They doing whatever to keep Gay Z relevant. He need to give it up sucking dick to get to the top, making it hard for the real mtfs to shine but now you gotta sell out and sell yo soul to make it and they give us rappers like young thug, wtf do he be talking about. Rappers have no souls sacrificing loved ones just for a lil recognition, but become non factors less than a year later why cause they wasn’t shit from the beginning give rap legends a bad name using they songs lyrics from lyrics (drake) just to get a hit. Y’all need to wake up and stop supporting these lame as niggas and stop believing bullshit just cause a mtf tell you some bs with a straight face don’t forget like pac said we living in this white man’s world, and we ain’t meant to survive cause all this shit is a setup!

          • Good points for theory. makes one really think deep. Could be truth to this. How on earth is cease surviving or taking care of himself? I seriously doubt he’s working a 9 to 5. And yes bigs fatality was a direct hit. Ive been wondering for years, why the fawk would puffy encourage big to go to California? I mean that was just fawking dumb. You put this man in harms way all for an agenda. They played that whole east coast west coast beef to no end. Pac said he did have a beef with the east coast only a specific person (s). After big and pac that rap sh!t is trash. Forreal.

          • Stfup! Pac was voicing his opinion! Big was never going to live after pac got killed. His life meant zero! Puffy set that up cause why would they think they were gonna floss in la after pac got killed? That was stupid! Its said the brothers left the way they did and the industry is to blame for their deaths. Bitch gone somewhere u dumb hoe. Rip PAC!

    7. Tupac was the greatest rapper of all time. I guess this is like Michael Jackson buying the Beatles catalogue.

    8. I hope this isn’t true but a few months ago there was a rumor that Jay Z was buying hot 97. I hope and pray Pac’s mom has a say in this. Too much corruption in the music industry.

    9. That’s why I always believed when Pac said these dudes set him up. I’m very disgusted by this story. I guess anybody can be bought. Suge will spend the rest of his life rotting in a jail cell and hopefully Puffy will follow suit.

      • puff ain’t crazy like suge.

        yes puff is dangerous but he just doesn’t go out and try to embezzle money out of folks.

        suge always went for the gangster supreme role.

        suge wanted to rule the streets and the hip hop charts he couldn’t do both.

        only suge’s connections can get him out of prison now guess they’re tired of him, he’s not generating no money.

    10. The best way to kill off a so called legend or anyone for that matter who tried to encourage or enlighten their people to rise against their oppressors such as Pac often did they plot to destroy from the inside out mainly twist all of the msgs left with in his music especially in Pac’s music he left tons of insight to a lot of the things we see today bcz its easier to manipulate sounds and triggers into music an artist has already recorded who is no longer alive or in control over their catalog and how it is packaged and presented to the masses now correct me if I am wrong but we have already seen this before with the Coachella 2pac performance I know hail mary from start to finish especially when talk is just talking at the beginning of the intro he said a lot of things that we blatantly left out on purpose when remastered for the Coachella performance if u take a look and then listen to the actual song u will see what I mean but either way with all their efforts they still won’t succeed they just cannot let go of the fact that no matter how many they try to deceive the ones who are aware of the truth will still find a way to spread the msg #peace&blessings yall #CountItAllJoy

    11. pac called them the illuminati the conspiracy of puffy, jay z, nas, mob deep and several others who was ion it.

      jimmy henchmen, Haitian kack, dr. dre.

      pac knew his time was running out which was why he wanted to let fansd know they was out to get him.

      dre leaves deathrow and gets with pac’s enemies.

      dre gets his own label he never disses pac but he wants to diss ja rule anmd jd people he know he can handle.

      dre blows up all his competition pac, eazy is dead suge gets in carcerated dre really blows up with Eminem.

      • pac did not believe in the illuminati he said people were telling him about it in jail and he was telling them “if there really want to kill you why would they tell farikhan?why they gonna tell this nigga in jail about the plan? How did it leak to him? who told him? Get the fuk outta here! your so busy thinking about the money your not getting the money!” he said the rumor is “another way of keeping your self esteem low”, and that he did not rise to fame on accident he planed it step by step , HE DID NOT BELEIVE IN THAT SHIT he wanted to kill the rumor so that black people would get the money and not gaf about whose face is on there……go listen to the video yourself

      • Hell I knew something was up when Jay-Z and Biggie collaborated Brooklyn’s Finest. They was clowning off Faith, Tupac, and if I mistaken Suge and Snoop. I could be wrong, but I do know Biggie did mentioned Faith and Tupac

    12. THIS ALBUM WILL SUCK WHY CAN’T THEY PUT OUT THE SONGS THE WAY PAC MADE THEM WITH THE ARTISTS HE MADE THE SONGS WITH.

      WHO WANTS TO HEAR PAC WITH DRAKE.

      PAC MIGHT HAVE WORKED WITH TIMBALAND BUT HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN IN THE STUDIO WITH TIMBALAND.

      WE KNOW ABOUT THE Agenda and theres money to be made but damn.

      they gonna erase the original beats which were hardcore most of them and add that techno gay ass beats on there.

      yeah lets gay up pac’s music lets gewt Justin bieber, miley cyrus, and lady gaga to really bring the fags out.

      • Chris only two or three people I know of that did a song around Pac’s music after he died. That was T.I., Ashanti, and Keyshia Cole. The songs were Pac’s Life and Playa Cards Right. And from the list above as I mentioned, it would Snoop and DMX. I be damned this fool said Drake let alone Beyoncé! Remembered when Barry sold two of Aaliyah’s songs? Chris Brown did his perfectly, but damn if Drake f*cked the song up. The song Chris Brown did was They Don’t Know and Drake did Enough Said. I hope and pray that Drake does not f*ck up a Tupac Song.

          • Hell yeah Cheese! I wonder why Toni never sued them from the jump. She asked Pac can she it but I never knew whey Jay Z and Beyoncé never ask Toni for the song.

            • I never got that either. She spoke out but something must have stopped her from suing.

              Chris,
              Are you talking about 50?

          • TOLD YA PAC CURSED HIS MUSIC HE SAID TOUCH ONE OF MINES I’LL DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH.

            LETS ADD HIS BIGGEST IMPERSONATOR THA REALEST WHO THOUGHT HE WAS PAC REINCARNATED YES HE EVEN GOT SHOT TOO.

            YES ITS SAD WHEN RAPPERS WAS BRAGGING ABOUT GETTING SHOT AND SURVIVING IT.

        • you fogot nas, you forgot scarface, you forgot ja rule and those impesrolnators master p, and the no limit family.

          trick daddy’s WACK ASS MADE ME SICK IMITATING HIM.

          AND THE OUTLAWZ PUTTING OUT THAT CD STILL I RISE THEY COULD’NT EVEN HOLD THEIR OWN WITHOUT PAC.

          EVERY INTERVIEW THEY TALKED ABOUT PAC AND STILL DO.

    13. suge is a curse.

      everybody he came in contact with suffered.

      pac dead, kadafe dead Orlando Anderson ended up dead whether you believe he killed pac or not.

      biggie dead.

      eazy terrified for his life, along with jerry heller who had to hire the jdl to make suge back off.

      suge had his troops give out constant beatdowns and rapes.

      suge is a fag if you have goons rape dudes you are gay.

      ruthless and deathrow deadly beef eazy’s boys bg knock out and dresta go up and confront snoop and the dogg pound.

      kind of funny suge and puffy never got into it.

      suge starts hanging around murder inc and irv and ja start associating themselves with bloods and wear red.

      irv goes to jail, while his brother is shot and nobody was arrested.

      suge disses puffy saying bad boys need to be spanked well that’s gay.

      grown men do not talk about spanking other grown men that’s those jailhouse fantasies.

      he disses snoop, and dre while they sell millions of albums while suge is just putting out unreleased pac music having hios local artiksts diss snoop and dre but other than loyal row fans the songs and disses fall on deaf ears.

      • Suge a curse ? May be? All I know is Suge
        A G… made some Stupid choice because he a street dude… then u got puff diddy that’s a trick at heart… playing the entertainment industry to his favor… because he can bend over and knee down when he needs to get a head…

    14. I trhink pac cursed his music.

      everybody who followed pac’s songs and imitated him ended up In jail or death came.

      master p and his no limit roster went through pac’s unrelerased catalog and what happened to them c murders in jail for life, mac’s in jail for life, souljah slim’s dead.

      tre 8 and magic’s dead.

      dmx went to jail numerous times.

      ja rule went to jail.

      trick daddy was arrested now hes just a crackheaD.

      CAMRON WAS SHOT, BEANIE STAY GETTING SHOT.

      SHYNE DID 10 YEARS ALL THESE RAPPERS EMULATED THE PAC AND BIG LEGACY AT SOME POINT.

      • hey this business is dirty and nasty what people don’t realize is the they worth more dead than alive tupac, aaliyah, biggie, pimp p, whitney houston, etc because the industry owns their likeness the entertainment industry is a farce right now. so, what’s the next thing lets bring back the dead. when you sign “yourself” over to the satan playground it’s a done deal.the people i named were murdered they use you and spit you out jay z knows his day will come when they get tired of him. people are celebrity loving fools why not do aaliyah , nwa , tupac film and album. “TIN HAT” signing off

        • YEP SINCE PIMP C ALL J PRINCE BEEN RELEASING WAS UGK AND PIMP C ALBUMS.

          AND THAT BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE OF AALIYAH AND THEN WHITNEY’S FILM WAS AN ABOMINATION.

          THE NWA FILM MIGHT BE DECENT.

    15. Fake story from a satirical website called gossipplug.com. Everyone including this site ran with the information after it was talked about on the Breakfast Club morning show yesterday. It has been verified to be false, but obviously it sparked a good discussion here. After all it is a RUMOR site so carry on….The website is pretty funny though. They troll the media. Think of it like a hip hop version of the Onion.

      • Thanks for the update and the tip, I get a kick out of those type of blogs. They even have an article up about Suge being dead and Kanye teaming up with Wayne. Funny stuff.

    16. Hey crazy Chris, you really need to stfu. You know nothing about nothing but you constantly keep running at your mouth. Just shut up already!

    17. @Crazy Chris lets not forget Prodigy from Mobb Deep went to jail.Nas’s career hasn’t been the same since the Jay Z beef even though Nas won that battle hands down. I just can’t understand how Drake won the Grammy over Nas a few years ago.

      • never was into mob deep.

        but damn if everybody didn’t punk prodigy.

        pac got in his ass on hit em up, when we ride on our enemies and why you turn on me where he really dissed the hell out of wendy Williams.

        called her a fat bitch why you wear spandex you fat bitch, we know your p*ssy stink.

        im gonna call a faT FARM TO COME FIND YOUR FAT ASS AND MAKE YOU LOSE WEIGHT.

      • lil kim went to jail, foxy brown went to jail.

        ti went to jail, when they started comparing wayne to pac he went to jail.

        every rapper that did the thug image somehow had misfortune.

        remy ma went to jail after mocking pac’s makaveli cover calling herself shesus Christ.

        merlin Santana played a character similar to pac and big role in played you can tell the film was mimicking the beef with pac and big with faizon love playing a character based on suge knight and toni Braxton played a character similar to faith evans.

        merlin was shot down in a robbery attempt.

          • True….some bitch lied on him and told her peeps that he raped her and her peeps came and shot him In the head while he was sitting in the car…he didn’t even see it coming

        • Wait a minute. Karrine said that Merlin was at her house before he got killed. She said that Merlin looked scared, nervous, and agitated. She even tried to have Merlin to stay at her house caused she knew something wasn’t right. He told her he will be fine. He gave her a hug and left. Next thing she knew somebody either told her or read it that Merlin got shot in the head while he was sitting his car. That right there scared the hell outta Karrine.

        • I wonder if Beyonce understands she was his back up plan after AAliyah dumped him. Maybe that’s why she tries so hard to please him.

        • LIKE THE MAJORITY OF GOSPEL SINGERS THEY GET TURNED OUT AND GO TO R&B AND HIP HOP.

          FAITH WAS AL B SURES BACKUP SINGER.
          MARY J WAS FATHA MC’S BACKUP SINGER AND IF YOU CONNECT FATHA MC’S HISTORY AND AL B SURE DATING KIM PORTER AND THE FAITH EVANS CONNECTION IT GOPES BACK TO PUFFY.

          YEAH BUT NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY BIG MARRIED FAITH AFTER 2 WEEKS OF KNOWING HER GUESS FAITH HAD SOME GOOD SEX.

          BUT WE KNEW WHO HER REAL MAN WAS PUFFY.

    18. I know Faith was looking very crackish. She was married to biggie but keeps Tupac’s dick in her mouth and that’s how you know they slept together. In every interview she keeps his name in her mouth. She’s a foul bitch. She married Todd right after biggie died.

      • YES WHO GOES TO A MOTEL WITH THEIR HUSBANDS WORST ENEMY.

        SHE SAID PAC WENT TO THE ROOM WITH HER TRIED TO SEDUCE HER BUT SHE SAID NO AND HE GOT MAD CALLED HER A BITCH AND LEFT.

        SWEAR FAITH COULD HAVE LIED BETTER.

    19. IN THE INDUSTRY ITS ALL ABOUT WHO OWNS WHAT AND WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY.

      NAS IS A GOOD RAPPER BUT HE ENDED UP ON A LABEL OWNED BY HIS FORMER ENEMY.

      WHEN DMX FOUND OUT JAY WAS GOING TO RUN DEF JAM HE LEFT HE REFUSED TO WORK UNDER THAT GUY.

      WELL AS FOR DRAKE WINNING A GRAMMY HES HOT RIGHT NOW AND SELLING MORE RECORDS WHICH IS ALL THE INDUSTRY CARES ABOUT WHO’S SELLING RECORDS OR WHOS PAID THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.

      AS LONG AS JAY, BEY IS MAKING MONEY WERE GONNA KEEP HEARING ABOUT THEM.

      WHY YOU THINK THE INDUSTRY TOLERATES KANYE’S COCKY ASS HES MAKING THE INDUSTRY MONEY.

        • HIS MOM’S DEATH WHETHER KANYE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT OR NOT HE REALLY STARTED INDULGING IN HIS WHITE GIRL FANTASIES.

          YES KANYE SECRETLY WEANTS TO BE WHITE Comparing himself to Disney, nike, howard hughes saying all blacks are slaves to corporations and then praising the corporations and wanting to be the next Disney.

          whites are laughing at this idiot.

          they love whewn he got on stage clowning.

          beck was nice about it he knows kanyes a idiot.

          he’s concerned with another mans wife too much that’s creepy.

          only jay z and bey can say something about her not winning any damn thing.

          beyonce don’t even like kim k.

          see how stupid kanye is.

    20. Beyonce doing a song with 2 Pac???

      what is She’s trying to prove… that She’s hard or tough

      don’t think Her “White Fans” will be buying it, Her “Down To Earth” image has tarnish ever since She’s been f*cking with Jay z

      Snoop Dogg is coon, remember that MTV video with Him and 2 Pac? Snoop looked pissed with 2 Pac!!
      almost like He knew something

      • yes there is an unreleased version of hit em up where pac disses snoop.

        pac was pissed cause snoop wanted to do a song with puff and big.

        actually pac didn’t understand why snoop would wanna work with somebody who tried to have them killed.

        pac said that snoop would have more problems without deathrow rather in deathrow.

        • @crazychris

          yeah, that MTV video was shockingly scary because Snoop knew what was gonna happen to 2 Pac!
          2 Pac was joking and smiling in that interview while Snoop wasn’t, He’s face wasn’t moving at all

          talking about Snoop and Diddy, Steve Harvey had Them on His show

          an episode about “West Coast Vs East Coast”

          • YES HE DID.

            THINK EVERYBODY IN DEATHROW KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO PAC.

            ALL THE TIME PAC WAS ON TV RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT SO AND SO.

            LAMONT BENTLEY PLAYED 2PAC IN THE MC HAmmer film and it was one of his last roles.

          • and when snoop had a so called peace conference to so call unite the west coast rappers every rapper in la was there and steve Harvey was there too.

            snoop said he was gonna bring the werst coast back years ago lies snoop only cares about himself really when was the last time he actually put out new talent on his label.

            all snoop did was made himself the star of his label and kept his artists underground on mixtapes and comiplations.

            snoop did the films, and the commercial;s and guest appearances on other artists albums why not his artists.

            snoop had battlecat, jellyroll, meech wells, , daz ,and soopafly how come the only songs snoop had to blow up on previous albums had to have been produced by the neptunes, and timbaland.

      • THE GAY COMMUNITY WILL SUPPORT EVERYTHING BEY DOES AS LONG AS SHE CATERS TO THEM.

        THEY GONNA REMIX PAC’S MUSIC WITH THOSE GAY ASS TECHNO HIP HOP FAG BEATS THEY DO NOW THEY MIGHT HAVE DRAKE OR WHATEVER SINGER AUTOTUNE IT TO MAKE PAC APPEAL TO THE LGBT EVEN MORE.

        • the gay community is the most powerful because the people in charge are gay. look at this man our “president” kissing men openly, gay pastors and preachers say it’s okay to be gay because they gay td, jakes, kirk franklin etc have sugar in the tank. gay sports stars who are mostly black comin out. (lliunmati) rothchilds, rockefellers, builderbergs and the black boule) are into that stuff. hey, did you know? that in those rap videos some of those models are not women those are transgenders. 95% of rappers and rnb singers have f*cked a trans they go overseas like russell simmons. “TIN HAT signing off

          • phukk these gay ass pastors.

            kirk franklin ADMITTED HES A WHORE HE TAKES CHURCH MONEY AND SPEND IT ON MALE AND FGEMALE HOOKERS.

            LEWTTING DUDES SUCK HIS DICK IN PORN THEATRES AND THEN WANNA HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY HES GONNA SAVE MY SOUL.

            MF CAN’T SAVE NOBODY YOU CAN’T EVEN STAY DFAITHFUL TO YOUR OWN WIFE HOW YOU GONNA PREACH THY SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.

            GOES FOR TYE TRIBBETT BISEXUAL SWINGING ASS TOO.

            PHUKK JIMMY SWAGGERTS PROSTITUTE CRACK SMOKING BUYING AZZ TOO.

            PHUKK TAMMY BAKER’S BISEXUAL DRAG QUEEN LOOKING ASS SWORE I THOUGH HER AND JIM WAS A DUDE AND TRANNY.

            AS FOR BARACK KISSING MEN HEY AMERICA VOTED.

            NO WONDER JOAN RIVERS DISSED HIM BEFORE SHE DIED.

            STARTING TO WONDER IS MICHELLE REALLY A TRANNY.

            WHAT KIND OF SEX MAGIC ARE THESE MFS DOING.

            ARE THEES WOMEN CALLING ON THE DEVIL TO GROW DICKS AND BECOME HESHES OR WHAT.

            BOBBI KRISTINA called angela bassett a trans.

            • DON’T FORGET TED HAGGARD “I’M HETEROSEXUAL WITH COMPLICATIONS. doing crack and meth with male escort in the hotel and the wives act like they have no clue what’s going on. the money so it keeps them quiet. and td jakes son is gay looking for dick in the park.

              • lets not forget rev zachery tims who died of a drug overdose.

                man these so called people who swear they love jesus have the biggest demons.

                either they’re gay or they’re on drugs or they wifeswap heard christiaNS BEEN WIFESWAPPING FOR CENTURIES THEY SAY ITS HOLY TRADITION.

              • AND All these tv evangelists who who ask you top send them donations and they give you a blessing from god.

              • Thats why I keep my church in my heart not in a building with a congregation of hypocrites.I pay my tithes every month to random strangers and keep it moving.They look at me crazy lol.I read and study my bible and worship at home with my family.I won’t be duped by these pastors,Apostles etc,none of them yah hear me none of them lol.

            • I believe Michelle is a man. A black girl wins the gold in gymnastics she says nothing. First GIRL to pitch in and win the Little League World Series she saids nothing. But she says Beyonce is an inspiration?!?! Something seriously wrong there!

    21. money or not, if the tables were turned Pac would not have bought Jays catalog because he doesnt need Jay to shine.

      • @crazychris

        Eminem done ruined 2 Pac’s song

        2 Pac would never do a song with Elton John, likewise

        bet He kept the money for Himself

        • dre was gonna do a hip hop gay album with Elton john.

          dre was supposed to do an album with timbaland.

          the nwa reunion album never happened.

          don’t believe nothing dre says about putting an album out detox ain’t coming out.

          fake ass pic with snoop, battlecat, and quik saying they’re gonna make new music for detox whatever.

          Eminem swore he didn’t know Elton was gay.

          and when that fag sasha baron cohan dropped his ass in Eminem’s face and he did nothing but walk away.

          sorry a real man or thug would have gotten upset about a man;s ass in his face.

          that was disgraceful.

          guess the lgbt crowd wanted to get em back for dissing them.

          • @crazychris

            everybody knew’s Elton John likes men is common knowledge!!
            Eminem just wanted to make a quick buck from 2 Pac because 2 Pac highly loved and respected!!

            Eminem did what white people have done for year exploit Black People

            that song was chit, it have no substance no meaning behind it almost like the song was rushed!!

            • eminem needs to do him.

              pac might have done a song with em if he wasn’t affiliated with dre.

              pac was openminded enough he made plans on doing music with meshell ndegeocello he talked about doing alternative music.

              only heard that track he did with Madonna once.

              he did a track with Alanis morrisette crazy ass.

    22. All of Timbaland beats sound the same and no one wants to hear 2Pac rapping over that nonsense so I doubt any of this is truth.JayZ sold his own catalog to DefJam and had to wait 10 years to retain them only when he became CEO.Black entertainers love to be exploited by the whiteman.

    23. U know what y’all? For past couple days.,I learn a great deal about these folks in the industry that I have never known. Yall broke stuff down from the bible all the way we are talking about this. I must admit, y’all are some good ole people. Yeah we have our moments, but we work on our problems and move onto the next topic. And this coming straight from the heart seriously.

      • Hey DA,

        I was just saying, I had a lot of fun on here last night. It was like the good old days.
        I had so much fun, and girl you part of Team Hilarious last night. Some of the Anons had me in tears too. I had too much fun!

    24. I remember Lamont Bentley from Moesha playing Pac in the Mc Hammer movie. I’ve always said had they been alive they would have been great to play him on the big screen.

    25. 2Pac was a got damn Ballet Dancer once upon a time but his So called Thug Image made many turn a Blind Eye.All of those Insidious threats on wax to Mobb Deep and Bad Boy and not one person got touch.

    26. I never liked Tupac’s music. However, I always thought he was drop dead gorgeous with those long curly lashes and that chiseled grace of his.

        • WELL THAT PIC OF HIM NAKED IN THE TUB WITH GOLD AROUND HIS DICK RAISED QUESTIONS HEArd there was footage that when pac took that naked pic there was a room filled with white men and one of the white dudes touched pac’s dick.

          seen the video but I didn’t see pac’s face just his eyes.

          something about being naked in A TUB IN HOLLYWOOD LOTS OF CELEBS DID IT.

    27. I hope this isn’t true because its making me sick to my stomach. Does his mother have any rights to his music..I hope so.

    28. Some of y’all are just as bad as the stans are today. You praise Tupac, who was nothing but a fraud,who ended up being an industry whore,who in turn damaged a generation and you’re coming at Jay-Z? Tupac was dancing in thongs,going to art schools,wasn’t even from the west coast and you’re telling me you don’t see how fake he was? If anything Jay-Z has done more to inspire a generation to not let their beginnings determine their future. What was positive about Pac’s legacy? Nothing!Often times hate for a person truly clouds people’s judgements. This is coming from a person who loves Pac’s music,but saw right through the fake thug image that got him killed in the end.

    29. nothing wrong with going to art school everybody starts somewhere he took acting classes was a heavy READER AND SO WHAT HE WAS A DANCER.

      PUFFY WAS A DANCER AND LOOK AT HIM.

      ICE CUBE WENT TO COLLEGE WHILE HE WAS WRITING RAPS FOR NWA.

      LOTS OF ENTERTAINERS WENT TO COLLEGE.

      SEEMS LIKE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WAS TOUGH GUYS CAN RAP OR SING ANBOUT STREET STUFF WELL PAC MAY NOT HAve been a thug but he lived in poverty growing up and you can’t get no more connected to the streets than that.

      berry gordy was a pimp, drug dealer but he never sdang on a rap record.

      most rappers never did about the majority of the stuff they rapped about.

      music including rap is entertainment.

      terrance howard wasn’t a pimp, and hes not a rapper or rap mogul but look at him.

      • Well damn! 9:00 that shit scared the daylights outta me! He gots to be alive! That is Pac’s voice to a tee!

        • Just remember DaRa, things can be done electronically and digitally which defy belief. If you had seen the hologram of Tupac at Coachella you would also have sworn he was back…but it was just an illusion.

          He really is dead. RIP

    30. if you be a rapper YOU ARE GONNA GET PHUKKED AT SOME POINT THEY’RE GONNA use you til the industry gets tired of you aND THEY GET A NEW RAPPER OR A NEW SINGER WHATEVER.

      CHECK HOW MANY OLD SCHOOL RAPPERS ARE PLAYING THE OLDIES CIRCUIT.

      REMEMBER BG PERFORMING AT LOCAL STRIP CLUBS BEFORTE HE WENT BACK TO PRISON.

      • Lol…..I’m chillin. Reading a few posts and playing with my instrument (bass guitar)…..lol. Thanks for asking, what happnin with you?

        • Uhmm..going back and forth gaming and reading, and whatever else I can fit in.
          Bass guitar huh? What bass line are you playing…Just A Touch Of Love ?
          That’s a hot bass line. What do you think? Yay or nay?

            • I can see Rick James. But I am not familiar with Freddy Jackson. I never liked his music. I am sorry.

          • You talking about slave!!!!! Oh yeah seriously funky bass line. And its not that hard either. I have been working on a few, it’s been a while since I played or thought about that one. There are 2 that I been concentrating on that’s been giving me a hard time. Been working on Glide, no self respecting bassist who claims to be able to slap, can’t claim being good until they can play Glide. I also been working on a song called celebrations by the Brothers Johnson. Louis Johnson was a fool with it….top 5 all time if you ask me.

            • I have always liked the Brothers Johnson. I know you can knock out Glide. That is not too hard is it?

              Just A Touch Of Love has a simple bass line but is awfully funky.
              What do you think about Bootsy Collin’s I’d Rather Be With You Space Bass Solo? Another killer bass line…Cosmic Slop !
              What do you think?

              • I have been remiss.I left out my one of my favorites…Ohio Players Ecstasy.
                If you are around there playing Glide and Brothers Johnson licks, I know you play Ecstasy on your bass.

              • I’m thinking you might be the prototype. You have got to be kidding me!!!! Ecstacy is one of my favorite sons of all time… Damn!! The 6 funkiest songs I have ever heard in my, life to are, ecstacy, loose booty, thinking, knee deep, if you want me to stay and riding high. Damn, we got to share more. I’m from a long line of music lovers and one of my side hustles is DJing. You do know that jay z sampled ecstacy in one of his songs. And yeah, I have almost mastered Glide. But there is so much about music that I know and love. As far as bass paying. I make some of my own bass lines but there are some bass players that I like to cover. And a few are James jammerson, Nate Phillips, Larry graham and the underdog from the group LA boppers. Not many know about the LA Boppers. But we need to share.

              • ELTH,

                I wonder what would happen if you taught bass playing on the side? I bet there are some people who would love to learn. In a perfect world I would like to play bass, but I don’t have the aptitude. All I can do is sing ( a little)
                But if you can play studio sessions, I am thinking you can teach it too?
                Teach these knuckheads how to play an instrument instead of sampling everything.

            • I just listened to Celebrations. I never heard it before. Shame on me. But I like it. It took me back home. So you can play that huh? That pretty cool.

              • Yep, I can play that. Glide is a little trickier because of the fret spacing between some on the notes after the breaks. Oh yeah, I like to play covers of songs by Jamirioquai, their songs have really funky bass lines. But I love playing the bass as a matter fact, according to a friend of mine that has been in the business figures that if I continue to improve, I might be able to become a studio bass player.

              • When if you want me to stay came out, I bought the album and wore it out. Sly was a bad boy, him and Larry Graham. I love Riding High. That is what’s up. You play that? That is good you play your own music. Let me tell you, I am in awe that you play an instrument. Do you play in a band as well? I had some family members that used to Dj. They did it on 1200s.

              • Yep set is, but I haven’t covered her music because I forgot about how funky she is…I have not listend to her in about 7 years.
                Bit I use technique SL 1200 mtks

                Why are you in awe? But if you are still up, I want to show you something

              • You have the aptitude to play. I thought the same thing when I first picked it up. I would pick it up for 5 minutes and just try to get a decent sound out of it but it was awful because I had no reference point and no knowledge. The hardest thing in the world was trying to get my left hand to follow my right hand to the same string. I wanted to break three damn thing but I got a book from the book store and read up on the chords but what helped me the most was talking to Leon Sylvers who was self taught and told me that 98 percent of the people have that problem, showed me two exercises to help build, left hand right hand coordination. And after about 2 days of doing those for 45 minutes happened, the left followed the right and that’s when you start improving daily. But another good thing to do is once it gets comfortable. Taker 20 or 30 minutes a day and just see what sounds you can get out of it. Just make up stuff and jam how you want to. I would take songs I liked and play the groove, not the bass line but the groove, I would try to see if I could play the song. Kind of like Victor wooten does. Do you know about Wooten?

                Jay z used ecstacy….lol

                Watch “Jay-Z – Brooklyns Finest” on YouTube
                Jay-Z – Brooklyns Finest: https://youtu.be/P_DLD7OMUns

              • ELTH,

                you have me believing I can teach myself to play bass. The finger excercises is what got me. The whole finger thing made me put the guitar down originally. If I ever get a chance I am going to try. After all I taught myself photography from the film days.
                Thanks for sharing that video. Jay Z took a song about loving and made it into killing. Didn’t Leon write most of the original songs for the Sylvers?
                Didn’t he write Fool’s Paradise?

                Thanks for sharing. I learned something, and I got a little courage to try my hand at music again all thanks to you.

              • Yep Leon wrote just about everything they made on the first three albums. He also wrote misdemeanor sung by Foster, which everyone thought was Michael Jackson. He also wrote the the a couple of he whispers biggest songs. He co wrote, Adventures in the land Of music which Camp Lo sampled on Lucinni which was their biggest song ever. He still writes and produced to this day. He won avgramm a couple of years ago for work on and album by a singer named Ndambi. Crazy thing is when he wrote Fools paradise he was 17, that goes to show how far we have regressed. A 17 year old theses days could care less about the state of the world, the people in it or the power structure. But it’s funny we are discussing him on this post, he said that Fools Paradise got him in trouble because the power people got scared of what he was putting out. He wanted to continue to do that kind of music but the industry wanted them to do bubble gum pop music like ABC 123, so if you notice when they started making songs like Hot line, high school dance and cotton candy, he was out . But I met him when I was stationed in California, dude is real cool unbelievably down to earth.

                But you can learn teach yourself, it takes a little practice, patience and knowledge. There is no real need to take lessons anymore unless you want the personal interaction. I’m not saying that personal interaction is a bad thing because Lord knows that we could use more as people, the lack of It is the cause of many of our problems and is why we are out of touch as peop,e and ineffective in our attempts to get things accomplished as a community and a people. But to save time and resources, you can use YouTube to learn just about everything You Ned to know. I had hit a wall with my improvement on the guitar about 2 years ago and something said look on YouTube and there it was….a treasure trove of lessons and ideas. I found the exercises that I used to help my hand coordination issue.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxdiuOjRF7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

              • I remember everything about The Sylvers. They have were an extremely talented family and they could sing while dancing rapidly and no one was out of a key or out of breath. They have been through a lot. I love that entire family and I take the good with the foibles. Lord knows the industry is a dirty bitch! ( I know of no other way to say it)

                A real musician is what you are. Real musicians are a rare and precious commodity thanks to the micro producers who sample everything instead of investing time and making real music. I have much respect to you brother.
                I hope you pass your talent on to your nephews, nieces, or children.

              • Oh I almost forgot about about the Ndambi part. Leon Sylvers wrote for her? That girl is the truth! I love Leon even more. That has to be a match made in heaven. Leon writing and a Ndambi singing. What song/songs did he write for her? Did he write Lonely Woman Or Ode To Eva?

              • Omg! My favorite Sylvers song is Forever Yours. They are the only group that can do a damn good job on an 8 part harmony.

              • DaRadianr 1 you nailed it!
                The Sylvers could knock out that 8 part harmony like it was nothing. They were an extremely talented group. I still love them to this day!
                They used to do their own choreography too. That family was loaded with talent and BEAUTY. I saw them in Detroit and they were some of the most beautiful people I ever saw in my life and the men had nerves to be tall too. Foster was with them too and he was gorgeous like the rest of his family.

              • Yes Gawd! When I first heard them when I was growing up and heard Forced Yours. Mannnnnnn…..U can’t get no better than that! On Unsung, they still can sang that 8 part harmony like it was nothing! O have not found a group til this day that can not do an 8 count harmony like The Sylvers. And with that being said I Salute Them!

    31. Where is BLACK Anastasia

      RAHEIM

      TYRONE

      STEPHEN

      AND THE Anons?

      I see DaRadiant 1

      I see ELTH

      We can get a party up in here.

        • Girl,
          Lately I have been on a Umar Johnson kick. I have been watching a lot of his vids like he is a rock star or something.

    32. 1 of the best threads ever in a long time! I see u still got that knowledge @crazychris lol ! This thread reminded me of how things used to be here on @hsk back in the year 2010/11. It used to be like this all day, everyday, every thread. Knowledge being exchanged amongst the intelligent posters
      Good stuff

    33. Earlier statements that Jay Z & Roc Nation would be purchasing the unreleased catalog of Tupac Shakur’s music have turned out to be false. The rumors began on Friday, when a local Houston radio show posted that Jay Z would be purchasing some unreleased material from Entertainment One. The reports also claimed that they would be releasing an unheard Tupac album titled And Now I Rise, with some features that seemed pretty unlikely to be true. However, you can expect to hear some new music from the late rapper later this year, according to JAM Inc.’s Jeff Jampol, who oversees Shakur’s estate.

    34. NOT BUYING IT.

      GUESS THEY DON’T WANNA PAY ALL THE FOLKS PAC DID THOSE SONGS WITH.

      SPICE 1 IS STILL MAD OVER FAME A TRACK HE DID WITH PAC AND KOKANE.

      SPICE 1 WAS PISSED THAT EMINEM ERASED HIS VOCAL AND ADDED 50 TO THE TRACK.

      GUESS THEY DON’T WANNA PAY STORM, DANNYBOY, GREG NICE, BIG DADDY KANE OR NONE OF THEM BOOT CAMP CLICK, YES PAC DID A LOT OF SONGS WITH WHOEVER HE COULD.

      I HATE THE WAY KEYSHIA COLE REMADE PLAY YA CARDS RIGHT I PREFER THE OG VERSION WITH PAC WITH THE OUTLAWZ, K CI AND JOJO WITH THE ALICIA MYERS SAMPLE.

      QUIT MESSING UP FOLKS MUSIC JUST TO SELL YOUR RECORDS.

    35. It really f*cks me off that a weak-ass rapper like Jay now owns all rights to the best rapper who ever lived.

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